Have We Found Life on Venus?

Real Science
Oct 3, 2020
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Venus Earth Twin: Second Planet with Same Size, Mass, and Significant Atmosphere

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Venus represents second planet from Sun sometimes called Earth’s twin due to nearly identical size and mass with both possessing significant atmospheres suggesting planets should be very much alike despite dramatic differences.

Venus Extreme Conditions: 400°C Temperature, 90x Earth Pressure, Sulfuric Acid Clouds

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Venus represents toxic hellscape compared to Earth featuring extreme temperatures exceeding 400 degrees Celsius, crushing atmospheric pressure more than 90 times higher than Earth, and monstrously thick atmosphere containing poison sulfuric acid clouds.

Venus Exploration Difficulty: No Rovers Ever, Longest Surface Mission Only Two Hours

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Crushing pressure and immense heat make Venus particularly hard place to explore resulting in no Venus rover ever deployed with longest surface mission being stationary lander surviving only two hours before succumbing to conditions.

Sagan Cloud Hypothesis 1967: Carl Sagan Proposing Venus Clouds Different Story from Implausible Surface

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Carl Sagan wrote 1967 that while Venus surface conditions make life hypothesis implausible the clouds of Venus represent different story altogether proposing alternative habitat decades before phosphine discovery potentially supporting this prescient hypothesis.

Phosphine Gas Properties: Colorless Flammable Toxic PH3 Used as Chemical Weapon and Fumigant

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Phosphine gas represents substance known on Earth as something to be avoided being colorless, flammable, and very toxic gas with chemical formula PH3 used historically as chemical weapon and currently as agricultural fumigant.

Anaerobic Bacteria Production: Phosphine Byproduct from Organisms in Oxygen-Free Environments

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Phosphine can be byproduct of life specifically from some species of anaerobic bacteria representing organisms living in environments with no oxygen such as marshes, landfills, or inside animal guts producing phosphine through metabolic processes.

Phosphine Biosignature: Gas Determined Appropriate Indicator of Life Accumulating to Detectable Levels

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Scientists determined phosphine to be appropriate biosignature gas earlier in 2020 representing gases produced by life that accumulate in atmospheres to detectable levels helping guide scientists in quest of looking for life on other planets.

Biosignature Gases Definition: Gases Produced by Life Accumulating to Detectable Atmospheric Levels

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Biosignature gases represent those produced by life that accumulate in planetary atmospheres to detectable levels helping guide scientists in their quest of looking for life on other planets through remote atmospheric analysis.

Earth Biosignatures: Oxygen from Photosynthesis, Methane and Nitrous Oxide from Life Processes

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On Earth majority of life centered around oxygen representing byproduct of photosynthesis subsequently used by other life forms to breathe with methane and nitrous oxide also among Earth’s biosignature gases indicating biological activity.

Phosphine Formation Difficulty: Requires 527°C Minimum Temperature and Abundant Elemental Hydrogen

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Phosphine takes extremely specific thermodynamic conditions to form outside biological life requiring extremely high temperatures and plenty of elemental hydrogen with scientists knowing no way phosphine can be produced on planets below 527 degrees Celsius.

Jupiter Phosphine: Gas Giant with High Phosphine Levels Formed in Hot Deep Hydrogen-Rich Atmosphere

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Gas giant Jupiter possesses high levels of phosphine gas formed in hottest deepest atmosphere layers where hydrogen abundant demonstrating abiotic phosphine production possible under extreme gas giant conditions unlike rocky planets.

Phosphine Discovery 2020: ALMA Detecting 20 PPB Venus Phosphine Versus Earth 7 PPT

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Researchers pointing ALMA telescope array at Venus almost could not believe detection discovering far more phosphine than even exists on Earth at 20 parts per billion versus Earth’s 7 parts per trillion representing extraordinary and unexpected finding.

Phosphine Concentration Comparison: Venus 20 Parts Per Billion Versus Earth 7 Parts Per Trillion

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Venus phosphine detected at 20 parts per billion concentration far exceeding Earth’s approximately 7 parts per trillion representing roughly thousand-fold higher abundance despite Earth having known biological phosphine sources.

Earth Life Origin Conditions: Liquid Water, Mild Temperatures, Molecule Concentration, Complexity, Trace Metals

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Most life origin theories include common set of environmental conditions considered vital: liquid water to dissolve molecules, mild temperatures below 122°C to preserve organics, concentration processes, complex diverse environments, and trace metals promoting organic formation.

Venus Current Hostile: Surface Over 400°C Without Liquid Water Breaking Down Organic Molecules

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Venus current conditions seem unlikely for giving rise to life with surface temperatures over 400 degrees Celsius meaning no liquid water can be present and heat would also break down any organic molecules making surface inhospitable.

Venus Cloud Conditions: Middle Cloud Layer with Earth-Like Temperatures, Pressures, Water Droplets

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Carl Sagan postulated 1960s that going up to middle of Venus cloud layer temperatures and pressures become rather Earth-like where water droplets could form and electric discharge in clouds could possibly lead to organic molecule formation.

Sulfuric Acid Problem: Venus Clouds Made of Hyper-Acidic Sulfuric Acid Breaking Down Organics

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Cloud life theory falls apart quickly when considering clouds made of sulfuric acid where hyper-acidic environment would break down any free-floating organic compounds making Venus today no place for life to form despite temperate cloud conditions.

Early Venus Modeling: Computer Simulations Showing Shallow Oceans and Mild Temperatures for 2 Billion Years

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Recent computer modeling shows early Venus very similar to early Earth with shallow oceans and mild temperatures for up to two billion years of early history suggesting planet may have been habitable before runaway greenhouse transformed conditions.

Relic Biosphere Hypothesis: Ancient Life Adapting to Clouds When Climate Change Boiled Oceans Away

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Researchers propose if phosphine indicates life this life represents relic of previous biosphere being ancient remnant of once thriving ecosystem that collapsed due to runaway greenhouse effect with life adapting to spread into clouds when climate change boiled oceans.

Earth Stratosphere Microbes: Balloon Samples at 20-41 Kilometers Detecting 12 Bacterial 6 Fungal Colonies

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Researchers 2005 used balloon to collect samples from different levels of Earth’s stratosphere at heights ranging 20 to 41 kilometers detecting 12 bacterial and 6 fungal colonies with microbes from every major biological lineage now detected in upper atmosphere.

Venus Acidity Problem: 90% Acid Clouds Versus Earth Extremophiles Tolerating Only 5% Maximum

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Even most durable extremophiles living in acidic conditions on Earth can withstand only around 5 percent acid while Venus cloud conditions exceed 90 percent acid representing environmental extreme far beyond known biological tolerance also ruling out accidental Earth microbe contamination.

Unknown Life Chemistry: Hypothetical Venus Life Protecting Carbon Bonds or Using Non-Carbon Biochemistry

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Supposed alien life living in Venus environment would have to exist in some form unknown to us either somehow withstanding or protecting their carbon bonds from acid or existing as non-carbon-based life-forms with different chemical bonds altogether.

Lightning Ruled Out: Venus Lightning Occurs Less Than Earth Insufficient Energy for Phosphine Production

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Researchers carefully examined other possible phosphine origins noting while lightning can occur on Venus it happens much less than on Earth and would fall short of producing energy required to create detected phosphine levels.

Volcanic Activity Ruled Out: Requires 200x Earth Activity, Venus Volcanoes Apparently Inactive

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Researchers estimated needing more than 200 times as much volcanic activity on Venus as on Earth to inject enough phosphine into atmosphere to be detectable and while thousands of volcanoes exist on Venus none apparently active with maximum volcanic phosphine production at least seven orders of magnitude too low.

Meteorite Delivery Ruled Out: Maximum 10 Tons Phosphine Per Year from 0.25% Phosphorus Content

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Assuming Venus receives same meteorite amount as Earth per year would deliver negligible phosphorus since meteorites contain average 0.25 percent phosphorus by weight and conservatively assuming 100 percent conversion these meteors would deliver maximum around 10 tons phosphine yearly insufficient for detection.

Unknown Life Chemistry Requirements: Organisms Protecting Carbon Bonds from Acid or Non-Carbon-Based Life-Forms

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Supposed alien life living in Venus sulfuric acid environment would exist in form unknown to science either somehow withstanding or protecting carbon bonds from acid breakdown or existing as non-carbon-based life-forms with different chemical bonds altogether.

Detection Skepticism: Faint Signal Requiring Extensive Processing Possibly Artificial Frequency Artifact

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Scientists doubt phosphine detection itself even real noting signal detected was faint and extensive amount of processing needed to pull it from telescope data with processing potentially returning artificial signal at same frequency as phosphine.

Telescope Confirmation: James Clerk Maxwell and ALMA Finding Nearly Identical Detection Patterns

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Researchers repeated their findings on two different telescope arrays the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope and ALMA finding nearly identical pattern of detection addressing skepticism and strengthening confidence in phosphine signal authenticity.

Future Venus Missions: Spacecraft Needed to Check Conditions, Collect Gas Samples, Find Alien Life

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If researchers confirm phosphine detection beyond shadow of doubt and continue unable to explain it next step will require sending spacecraft to Venus to check exactly what is going on collecting gas samples or even possible alien life.

Extraordinary Evidence Requirement: Carl Sagan Quote Applied to Venus Life Claims Demanding Rigorous Proof

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As Carl Sagan once said extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and as planetary science community sets priorities for next decade of space exploration Venus has rocketed to front of list demanding rigorous investigation before accepting life claims.

Anomalous Chemistry Conclusion: Authors Emphasize Detection Not Robust Life Evidence Only Unexplained Chemistry

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Even authors of paper emphasize detection of phosphine not robust evidence for life only for anomalous and unexplained chemistry remaining after exhausting known abiotic production pathways leaving mystery requiring further investigation.